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===Second Trip:===
 
===Second Trip:===
 
'''August 11 - 19'''
 
'''August 11 - 19'''
 +
 +
===pre eve trip to do ===
 +
* prepare data/power/ground common connections for SDI devices
 +
* prepare HMP155 cables for old sites.
 +
 +
===To Purchase===
 +
* One Compact flash card for CFM100
  
 
===Second Trip To Do List:===
 
===Second Trip To Do List:===
 +
====Teller====
 
* @ Teller
 
* @ Teller
−
** Lower Station turn into full met 3m tripod located closer to shrubs
+
** [[Teller Lower Station]] turn into full met 3m tripod located closer to shrubs
 
*** soil pit
 
*** soil pit
−
*** 1.5m soil temps?
+
**** soil moisture @ 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
−
*** snow
+
**** soil thermal conductivity @ 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
−
*** radiation
+
**** soil temperature @ 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
−
*** probably split off surface water sensors onto a different logger (maybe the cr800 up top or else a new one)
+
**** soil heat flux near base of active layer & plant / soil boundary
−
*** airtemp & Precip
+
**** take 2-3 soil samples from this pit for soil moisture testing
−
*** 3m anemometer
+
*** 1.5m soil temperature profile
−
*** use self tapping screw to keep animals from removing precip bucket lid.
+
*** snow depth @ tripod
−
** Upper station
+
*** snow depth away from tripod
 +
*** interval camera
 +
*** 4 component radiation
 +
*** Spectral response sensors: NDVI & PRI up looking and two vegetation communities
 +
*** 1.5m Air temperature, Relative Humidity, & Dew Point Temperature
 +
*** Wind speed and direction at 3m
 +
*** summer precipitation
 +
**** bring out self tapping screw to keep animals from removing precip bucket lid.
 +
** Surface Water Station #1
 +
*** Bring out CR200 (May go with CR800 if Ross can't get the data retrieval program working with the CR200... then CR200 for next year).
 +
**** another reason to go CR800 is that this could become the satellite base and there wouldn't be the pinch on the control ports.
 +
*** Connect two Pressure Transducers to this CR200
 +
*** Readdress them to 1 & 0 from 0 & 0
 +
*** From temporary top site bring down for SW station:
 +
**** instrument box
 +
**** battery
 +
**** solar panel
 +
**** charge controller
 +
** [[Teller Upper Station ]]
 
*** soil pit in the low area  
 
*** soil pit in the low area  
−
*** new solar panel
+
**** soil moisture @ 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
−
*** real batteries in a battery box
+
**** soil thermal conductivity @ 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
−
*** super animal protection.
+
**** soil temperature @ 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
 +
**** soil heat flux near base of active layer & plant / soil boundary
 +
**** take 2-3 soil samples from this pit for soil moisture testing
 +
*** 1.5m soil temperature profile
 +
*** snow depth @ tripod
 +
*** snow depth away from tripod
 +
*** interval camera
 +
*** 4 component radiation
 +
*** 1.5m Air temperature, Relative Humidity, & Dew Point Temperature
 +
*** Wind speed and direction at 3+m
 +
*** summer precipitation
 +
*** super animal protect this site.
 +
 
 +
====Teller Extras:====
 +
* Survey in and place the two hobo pressure transducers somewhere in the watershed up stream from the main site.
 +
* Survey in temporary and permanent tripods / instrumentation
 +
* Discharge measurement @ bottom
  
−
* @ Kougraok M64
+
====Existing Site @ Kougarok====
−
** if we get permission then site at the top perhaps?
+
* '''K Met'''
−
* Existing Sites @ Kougarok
+
** Tower change size reduction
−
** Remove lowest section of K-met Tower?
+
** To bring:
−
** Level radiometers
+
*** pipe cutter
−
** level precip buckets
+
*** replacement bolts for tower sections
−
** general sensor refresh
+
*** rope along
 +
** complicators (I think Council will be slightly simpler)
 +
*** unistrut at base
 +
*** tower sinking into muck
 +
*** instrument box with all instruments at base
 +
*** cross arms & junk hanging off structure
 +
** Level radiometer platform & then radiometers
 +
** To bring:
 +
*** dog anchor (I think we used a dog anchor last summer actually... this will be the see the results of that check)
 +
*** cable cutter
 +
*** additional cable thimbles
 +
*** tools
 +
*** sketch out could we use like a solid unistrut arm rather than the cable
 +
** level precip bucket
 +
*** level
 +
** Snow sensor replacement
 +
*** SR50A w/ address 0
 +
** Refresh AT/RH sensors
 +
*** program change
 +
** check if Anemometers are still within specification
 +
** replace snow sensors
 +
** download data off storage module (there is a setting to be accessed in LN setup)
 +
** only planning to visit 10 meter tower and Mauze Gulch (up from bridge)
 +
** bring out new battery
 +
** copy of permit or # on metal tag?
 +
* '''K3 Mauze Gulch'''
 +
** bring out new battery
 +
** bring out SR50A w/ address 0
 +
** copy of permit or # on metal tag?
 +
** level precip bucket
 +
*** level
 +
** Refresh AT/RH sensors
 +
*** program change
 +
** check if Anemometers are still within specification
 +
* @ airport conex
 +
** see about drilling a hole in the unit so a radio / satellite base can be setup... or think about this for K2
  
−
* Existing Sites @ Council
+
==== Existing Sites @ Council====
 +
* Blueberry Hill
 
** Remove lowest section of Tower? @ blueberry hill
 
** Remove lowest section of Tower? @ blueberry hill
 
** Level radiometers
 
** Level radiometers
 +
*** pretty sure no dog anchor here but could look into it...
 +
*** oh, could try 1/2 unistrut plus the small ubolts
 
** level precip buckets
 
** level precip buckets
−
** general sensor refresh
+
** Refresh AT/RH sensors
−
** spend one or two nights with Mike Murphy to reduce travel times?
+
** check if Anemometers are still within specification
−
** radiometer setup to Grid site
+
** download data
−
** put in ground control point
+
** spend two nights with Mike Murphy to maximize field time
 +
** put in ground control point & log position overnight
 +
** Bring out new battery
 +
 
 +
* Existing Skookum Pass Repeater site
 +
** Switch old data logger out for CR800 and
 +
** if time install redundant satellite link
 +
** bring up two batteries
 +
 
 +
* Existing Anvil Mountain Repeater site
 +
** bring up two batteries
 +
** Change AT/RH/DP out for simpler Air temperature only
  
−
New ~mile 60 Kougarok site
 
−
* radiation
 
−
* heat flux
 
−
* put in ground control point
 
−
*
 
  
  
 
====8/11====
 
====8/11====
 
* Arrive @ around Noon
 
* Arrive @ around Noon
−
* Pick up vehicle
+
* Pick up vehicle. confirmation number 39289
 
* Pick up freight
 
* Pick up freight
 
* Visit Anvil Mountain and swap out batteries.
 
* Visit Anvil Mountain and swap out batteries.
 
* Get groceries
 
* Get groceries
 
* Pack vehicle for 8/12
 
* Pack vehicle for 8/12
−
====8/12 & 8/13====
+
* Pick up freight
 +
** bring teller coded gear to Bering Air
 +
 
 +
====8/12 - 8/14 or 15====
 +
'''(I think this may take more than two days)'''<br/>
 +
'''Starting to think 1.5 -2 days per site is more realistic'''
 
* Go to Teller
 
* Go to Teller
 
* @Top Put up permanent site
 
* @Top Put up permanent site
−
** tripod
+
** see above for instrumentation etc
−
** camera
 
−
** batteries
 
−
** battery box
 
−
** solar panel
 
−
** logger
 
−
** radiometer
 
−
** additional box for multiplexer
 
−
** multiplexer
 
−
** Met Sensors
 
−
*** AT/RH
 
−
*** RM Young WS/WD
 
−
*** Snow Depth
 
−
*** Precipitation?
 
−
** Soil Pit
 
−
*** SDI12 Soil Moisture
 
−
*** Soil Thermal Conductivity
 
−
*** Heat Flux Plate
 
−
** 1.5m Soil temperature?
 
−
** Cable Armoring for everything exposed
 
−
** Reuse for SW station:
 
−
*** small battery
 
−
*** small solar panel
 
−
*** CR800
 
 
* @ SW station
 
* @ SW station
−
** Move instrument box to the small stand
+
** see above for instrumentation etc
−
** Reprogram CR800 & power back up. (I'm still torn on doing this this year or next year...)
 
 
* @ Snowmelt Logger
 
* @ Snowmelt Logger
−
** Reuse Snowmelt Yellow box & Logger for permanent site.
+
** see above for instrumentation etc
−
** Met Sensors
 
−
*** AT/RH
 
−
*** RM Young WS/WD
 
−
*** Snow Depth
 
−
** Soil Pit
 
−
*** SDI12 Soil Moisture
 
−
*** Soil Thermal Conductivity
 
−
*** Heat Flux Plate
 
−
** 1.5m Soil temperature?
 
−
** tripod
 
−
** camera
 
−
** batteries
 
−
** battery box
 
−
** solar panel
 
−
** Cable Armoring for everything exposed
 
 
* Use Survey GPS to lock in positions of all instrumentation (before move and after!)
 
* Use Survey GPS to lock in positions of all instrumentation (before move and after!)
 
* Make a discharge measurement
 
* Make a discharge measurement
−
* Level precip bucket
+
* Level precipitation gage
 
* Bring a drill & self-tapping screw to lock tipping bucket in place.
 
* Bring a drill & self-tapping screw to lock tipping bucket in place.
 +
 
====8/14 - 8/16 ====
 
====8/14 - 8/16 ====
 
* '''FUEL UP!!!!'''
 
* '''FUEL UP!!!!'''
 
* If the weather cooperates, hike up and visit the Kigluaiks Sites
 
* If the weather cooperates, hike up and visit the Kigluaiks Sites
 +
** optional / cancel if behind schedule...
 
** download data
 
** download data
 
** reorient antenna if needed
 
** reorient antenna if needed
−
** see if there is anything we can take down from the smashed up site
 
 
* Plan A: Recon the Kougarok site
 
* Plan A: Recon the Kougarok site
−
* Plan B: save Kougarok_m64 site for '17 or put instruments @ Pilgrim hot springs
+
* Plan B: save Kougarok_m64 site for '17  
 +
* Plan C: put some instruments @ Pilgrim hot springs?
 
* @Kougarok_m64
 
* @Kougarok_m64
−
** tripod
+
* see above for instrumentation etc
−
*** still mulling this one since we will be dragging all this stuff up the hill.
+
* @ K2 Met
−
** batteries
+
** grab data off the storage module
−
** battery enclosure
+
** sensor refresh
−
** Met Instruments
+
** Battery
 +
* @ K3 Mauze Gulch
 +
** Sensor refresh
 
*** AT/RH
 
*** AT/RH
−
*** Precip?
+
*** SR50A
−
*** RM Young WS/WD
+
*** Battery
−
*** Snow Depth
+
** Data Download 
−
** Soil Pit
+
* Camping Schedule on ideal itinerary
−
*** SDI12 Soil Moisture
+
** 8/15: Kougarok Cabin
−
*** Soil Thermal Conductivity
+
** 8/16: Kougarok Cabin
−
*** Heat Flux Plate
+
 
−
** 1.5m Soil temperature?
+
====8/17 - 8/18====
−
* what am I forgetting here?
+
* Drive back to Nome
−
* ...where to camp for 8/14...
+
* '''FUEL UP!!!!'''
−
*
+
* Drive out to Council
 +
* Spend two nights @ B&B.
 +
* Focus on C2 Blueberry site & Tower.
 +
* make the radiation stand more solid.
 +
* Reduce the tower to 2 sections
 +
 
 +
====8/19====
 +
* Return to Nome
 +
* On way stop by Skookum Pass repeater
 +
* Fix as noted above.
 +
* Ship anything in need of shipping
 +
** crab?
 +
* depart for Fairbanks in evening
 +
 
 +
===To bring MISC===
 +
*anti seize goop
 +
*camping gear
 +
*putty for boxes
 +
* rope-a-long
 +
 
 +
===Hydra Probe notes ===
 +
** ID 0 = 5cm = red
 +
** ID 1 = 10cm = orange
 +
** ID 2 = 20cm = purple
 +
** ID 3 = 30cm = brown
 +
** ID 4 = 40cm = black
 +
===VATP notes===
 +
*bringing 2 drill bits (different tips), two extensions (different lengths), and two connectors
 +
*also need to bring wrenches
 +
*drill in UAF Nome storage
 +
*when installing VATP, remove upper veg layer, drill a hole, install VATP, cut a slit in upper layer to place back around installed probe
 +
*use white duct tape to secure probe to conduit
 +
 
 
===Anemometer notes ===
 
===Anemometer notes ===
 
Testing each anemometer for  
 
Testing each anemometer for  
 
*propeller torque using anemometer torque disc (18310)
 
*propeller torque using anemometer torque disc (18310)
−
**moved with 0.2 gm-cm (a black nylon screw at 2cm radius). factory spec is 2.6 gm-cm, so this is much better
+
**factory spec is 2.6 gm-cm (black nylon screw at 5cm and metal screw at 2cm)
 +
*** 33821 moved with 0.2 gm-cm (a black nylon screw at 2cm radius), so this is much better than factory spec
 +
*** 61996 moved with 0.5 gm-cm
 
**tested both Clock Wise(CW) and Counter Clock Wise (CCW)
 
**tested both Clock Wise(CW) and Counter Clock Wise (CCW)
−
*Wind speed
+
*Wind speed using anemometer drive (18802)
−
**using anemometer drive (18802) @200rpm = 0.98m/s. @1000rpm = 4.9m/s. @2000rpm = 9.8m/s
+
** @200rpm = 0.98m/s. @1000rpm = 4.9m/s. @2000rpm = 9.8m/s
 +
**tested both CW and CCW
 +
*Vane Torque using Vane Torque Gauge (18331)
 +
**mount the gauge, pull the string, if it moves with < 30 gm-cm of torque, golden.
 
**tested both CW and CCW
 
**tested both CW and CCW
 +
*Wind Direction using Vane Angle Fixture Tower Mount (18212)
 +
** checked 3 directions
 +
*** 33821 all within 1 degree of accuracy
 +
*** 61996 reads 3 degrees less (ex: reads 177 when should be 180)
 +
 +
===Outstanding To Do Items===
 +
* Grab remaining bolts for upper tripod
 +
* cut unistrut for green box to upper tripod interface
 +
* sort hose clamps for:
 +
** teller upper snow stand
 +
** teller upper precip stand
 +
** teller lower precip stand
 +
** any others...
 +
** solder extensions for TL Upper & TL Lower snow stand SR50A cable
 +
** set up terminal blocks for SDI instruments (power, data, ground)
 +
** heat flux constants:
 +
*** S/N 7880: 55.58 uV/(W/m^-2)
 +
*** S/N 7878: 59.63 uV/(W/m^-2)
 +
*** S/N 12090: 62.88 uV/(W/m^-2) (TL Upper)
 +
*** S/N 12121: 63.39 uV/(W/m^-2) (TL Lower)
 +
** Bring precision resistors
 +
** toolbag
 +
** solder HMP155 extensions for old sites
 +
** pack up RM Young hardware
 +
** Rope-a-long
 +
 +
** CF Card for CFM100(s)
 +
 +
 +
 +
*

Latest revision as of 17:59, 10 August 2016

Second Trip:

August 11 - 19

pre eve trip to do

  • prepare data/power/ground common connections for SDI devices
  • prepare HMP155 cables for old sites.

To Purchase

  • One Compact flash card for CFM100

Second Trip To Do List:

Teller

  • @ Teller
    • Teller Lower Station turn into full met 3m tripod located closer to shrubs
      • soil pit
        • soil moisture @ 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
        • soil thermal conductivity @ 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
        • soil temperature @ 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
        • soil heat flux near base of active layer & plant / soil boundary
        • take 2-3 soil samples from this pit for soil moisture testing
      • 1.5m soil temperature profile
      • snow depth @ tripod
      • snow depth away from tripod
      • interval camera
      • 4 component radiation
      • Spectral response sensors: NDVI & PRI up looking and two vegetation communities
      • 1.5m Air temperature, Relative Humidity, & Dew Point Temperature
      • Wind speed and direction at 3m
      • summer precipitation
        • bring out self tapping screw to keep animals from removing precip bucket lid.
    • Surface Water Station #1
      • Bring out CR200 (May go with CR800 if Ross can't get the data retrieval program working with the CR200... then CR200 for next year).
        • another reason to go CR800 is that this could become the satellite base and there wouldn't be the pinch on the control ports.
      • Connect two Pressure Transducers to this CR200
      • Readdress them to 1 & 0 from 0 & 0
      • From temporary top site bring down for SW station:
        • instrument box
        • battery
        • solar panel
        • charge controller
    • Teller Upper Station
      • soil pit in the low area
        • soil moisture @ 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
        • soil thermal conductivity @ 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
        • soil temperature @ 10, 20, 30, 40 cm bgs
        • soil heat flux near base of active layer & plant / soil boundary
        • take 2-3 soil samples from this pit for soil moisture testing
      • 1.5m soil temperature profile
      • snow depth @ tripod
      • snow depth away from tripod
      • interval camera
      • 4 component radiation
      • 1.5m Air temperature, Relative Humidity, & Dew Point Temperature
      • Wind speed and direction at 3+m
      • summer precipitation
      • super animal protect this site.

Teller Extras:

  • Survey in and place the two hobo pressure transducers somewhere in the watershed up stream from the main site.
  • Survey in temporary and permanent tripods / instrumentation
  • Discharge measurement @ bottom

Existing Site @ Kougarok

  • K Met
    • Tower change size reduction
    • To bring:
      • pipe cutter
      • replacement bolts for tower sections
      • rope along
    • complicators (I think Council will be slightly simpler)
      • unistrut at base
      • tower sinking into muck
      • instrument box with all instruments at base
      • cross arms & junk hanging off structure
    • Level radiometer platform & then radiometers
    • To bring:
      • dog anchor (I think we used a dog anchor last summer actually... this will be the see the results of that check)
      • cable cutter
      • additional cable thimbles
      • tools
      • sketch out could we use like a solid unistrut arm rather than the cable
    • level precip bucket
      • level
    • Snow sensor replacement
      • SR50A w/ address 0
    • Refresh AT/RH sensors
      • program change
    • check if Anemometers are still within specification
    • replace snow sensors
    • download data off storage module (there is a setting to be accessed in LN setup)
    • only planning to visit 10 meter tower and Mauze Gulch (up from bridge)
    • bring out new battery
    • copy of permit or # on metal tag?
  • K3 Mauze Gulch
    • bring out new battery
    • bring out SR50A w/ address 0
    • copy of permit or # on metal tag?
    • level precip bucket
      • level
    • Refresh AT/RH sensors
      • program change
    • check if Anemometers are still within specification
  • @ airport conex
    • see about drilling a hole in the unit so a radio / satellite base can be setup... or think about this for K2

Existing Sites @ Council

  • Blueberry Hill
    • Remove lowest section of Tower? @ blueberry hill
    • Level radiometers
      • pretty sure no dog anchor here but could look into it...
      • oh, could try 1/2 unistrut plus the small ubolts
    • level precip buckets
    • Refresh AT/RH sensors
    • check if Anemometers are still within specification
    • download data
    • spend two nights with Mike Murphy to maximize field time
    • put in ground control point & log position overnight
    • Bring out new battery
  • Existing Skookum Pass Repeater site
    • Switch old data logger out for CR800 and
    • if time install redundant satellite link
    • bring up two batteries
  • Existing Anvil Mountain Repeater site
    • bring up two batteries
    • Change AT/RH/DP out for simpler Air temperature only


8/11

  • Arrive @ around Noon
  • Pick up vehicle. confirmation number 39289
  • Pick up freight
  • Visit Anvil Mountain and swap out batteries.
  • Get groceries
  • Pack vehicle for 8/12
  • Pick up freight
    • bring teller coded gear to Bering Air

8/12 - 8/14 or 15

(I think this may take more than two days)
Starting to think 1.5 -2 days per site is more realistic

  • Go to Teller
  • @Top Put up permanent site
    • see above for instrumentation etc
  • @ SW station
    • see above for instrumentation etc
  • @ Snowmelt Logger
    • see above for instrumentation etc
  • Use Survey GPS to lock in positions of all instrumentation (before move and after!)
  • Make a discharge measurement
  • Level precipitation gage
  • Bring a drill & self-tapping screw to lock tipping bucket in place.

8/14 - 8/16

  • FUEL UP!!!!
  • If the weather cooperates, hike up and visit the Kigluaiks Sites
    • optional / cancel if behind schedule...
    • download data
    • reorient antenna if needed
  • Plan A: Recon the Kougarok site
  • Plan B: save Kougarok_m64 site for '17
  • Plan C: put some instruments @ Pilgrim hot springs?
  • @Kougarok_m64
  • see above for instrumentation etc
  • @ K2 Met
    • grab data off the storage module
    • sensor refresh
    • Battery
  • @ K3 Mauze Gulch
    • Sensor refresh
      • AT/RH
      • SR50A
      • Battery
    • Data Download
  • Camping Schedule on ideal itinerary
    • 8/15: Kougarok Cabin
    • 8/16: Kougarok Cabin

8/17 - 8/18

  • Drive back to Nome
  • FUEL UP!!!!
  • Drive out to Council
  • Spend two nights @ B&B.
  • Focus on C2 Blueberry site & Tower.
  • make the radiation stand more solid.
  • Reduce the tower to 2 sections

8/19

  • Return to Nome
  • On way stop by Skookum Pass repeater
  • Fix as noted above.
  • Ship anything in need of shipping
    • crab?
  • depart for Fairbanks in evening

To bring MISC

  • anti seize goop
  • camping gear
  • putty for boxes
  • rope-a-long

Hydra Probe notes

    • ID 0 = 5cm = red
    • ID 1 = 10cm = orange
    • ID 2 = 20cm = purple
    • ID 3 = 30cm = brown
    • ID 4 = 40cm = black

VATP notes

  • bringing 2 drill bits (different tips), two extensions (different lengths), and two connectors
  • also need to bring wrenches
  • drill in UAF Nome storage
  • when installing VATP, remove upper veg layer, drill a hole, install VATP, cut a slit in upper layer to place back around installed probe
  • use white duct tape to secure probe to conduit

Anemometer notes

Testing each anemometer for

  • propeller torque using anemometer torque disc (18310)
    • factory spec is 2.6 gm-cm (black nylon screw at 5cm and metal screw at 2cm)
      • 33821 moved with 0.2 gm-cm (a black nylon screw at 2cm radius), so this is much better than factory spec
      • 61996 moved with 0.5 gm-cm
    • tested both Clock Wise(CW) and Counter Clock Wise (CCW)
  • Wind speed using anemometer drive (18802)
    • @200rpm = 0.98m/s. @1000rpm = 4.9m/s. @2000rpm = 9.8m/s
    • tested both CW and CCW
  • Vane Torque using Vane Torque Gauge (18331)
    • mount the gauge, pull the string, if it moves with < 30 gm-cm of torque, golden.
    • tested both CW and CCW
  • Wind Direction using Vane Angle Fixture Tower Mount (18212)
    • checked 3 directions
      • 33821 all within 1 degree of accuracy
      • 61996 reads 3 degrees less (ex: reads 177 when should be 180)

Outstanding To Do Items

  • Grab remaining bolts for upper tripod
  • cut unistrut for green box to upper tripod interface
  • sort hose clamps for:
    • teller upper snow stand
    • teller upper precip stand
    • teller lower precip stand
    • any others...
    • solder extensions for TL Upper & TL Lower snow stand SR50A cable
    • set up terminal blocks for SDI instruments (power, data, ground)
    • heat flux constants:
      • S/N 7880: 55.58 uV/(W/m^-2)
      • S/N 7878: 59.63 uV/(W/m^-2)
      • S/N 12090: 62.88 uV/(W/m^-2) (TL Upper)
      • S/N 12121: 63.39 uV/(W/m^-2) (TL Lower)
    • Bring precision resistors
    • toolbag
    • solder HMP155 extensions for old sites
    • pack up RM Young hardware
    • Rope-a-long
    • CF Card for CFM100(s)


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